My
wife Michele and I have encountered several
interesting developments in our search
for a Vit. E without estrogen. Michele,
(who has done all of the searching, questioning
and going back and forth with several
vitamin makers) has discovered that even
among the synthetics and the non-estrogen
Vit. E’s, soy oil is added to them
to act as a flowing agent or to just
plain fill the capsule! Soy isoflavones
are estrogen. So they work at taking
the estrogen out of the soy oil they
make Vit. E from only to put the isoflavones
back into what constitutes 1/3 of the
product? Does that make sense?
We
thought it would be easy to tell the
estrogen containing Vit. E from the
non-estrogen Vit. E by the ending of
the name Tocopheryl. If the word ends
in “yl” the E contains
estrogen. If it ends in “ol” it
does not. Things turned out not to
be that simple. Seems the packagers
of the ‘”ol” Vit.
E add soy oil to their product when
encapsulating!
Why the
fuss? It’s easy to understand once
you know some facts... According to the
late Dr. Thomas Cureton, of the Univ.
of Southern Illinois and the first researcher
on the nutrient, Vitamin E is ESSENTIAL
to sexual function and reproduction.
Lately, studies have found that the latest
soy versions of Vit. E, contain isoflavones
(which ar estrogen), and reduce testosterone
levels in men. If it does this in men
it will also happen in women; testosterone
is ESSENTIAL to sexual function and reproduction
in both sexes. Estrogen produces infertility
(the Pill for example is estrogen or
an estrogen progesterone hybrid). So
in essence, the soy industry (i.e. Monsanto
and ADM) with its cheap and readily available
products, has turned an "essential
for fertility" nutrient into a tool
of infertility!
Way back
when, in my youth, (when they still gave
out Merit Badges for Dragon Slaying),
all Vit. E was made from COLD Pressed
wheat germ oil - golden goodness and
no ESTROGEN! Taking it instantly improved
both sexual function, libido and the
bodies energy and endurance. E does not
do so today!
One company
touting the fact that their Vit. E has
been de-estrified (had the estrogen taken
out of it) adds back soy oil to the capsule
thereby undoing what they’ve done
to take the estrogen out!!! Does that
sound smart to you? Here is an example
of the back and fourth between Michele
and this firm:
4 Jan
07
Michele:
Hi ---:
How
are you? Hope you had a Happy Holiday
Season!
I just
received --- new catalog of products
and had a couple of questions about some
of the products mentioned........
2) E-400
IU mixed Tocopherols / unesterified -
What is the source of the vitamin e in
this product?
Answer:
Soy.
Thank
you for your time.
10 Jan.
07
Michele:
Hi ---:
I have
just one more question about the Vitamin
E: On the unesterified Vitamin
E products, do you know if Soy oil is
added back as a base for the Vitamin
E?
Thank
you. Be well,
11 Jan
07
Answer:
Michele
Here is the answer I got back from our
nutritionist. Unfortunately it's
not as technical as they would have liked,
we haven't got a response back from our
vendor. I believe the Vitamin E
fills up about 70% of the softgel, the
soybean oil is the rest. Thanks
Hello ---,
Yes as it is required as an excipeient
to completely fill the capsule. Only
small amounts need to be used.
11 Jan
07
Michele:
Hi ---:
Okay. Thank
you for checking. I have to admit
that I'm surprised that they would take
an unesterified product and add estrogen
back to it. We have been
looking for an E without estrogen and
adding the soybean oil just adds all
the estrogen right back into the capsules. And,
30% of the capsule sure sounds like an
awful lot also. Because of the
soybean oil being added back, we would
not be interested in private labeling
this E. But I do appreciate your
checking into it for me.
Be well.
11 Jan
07
Answer:
Michele
Let me ask them again about this. Maybe
they have some information about estrogen
levels in this or any of our other Vit
E products.
Thanks
11 Jan
07
Michele:
Hi ---:
I appreciate
your checking on this for me but I am
fairly confident that Dr. Wong will not
be interested just because of the Soybean
oil being used as an excipeient as Dr.
Wong is completely anti-soy. It's
been hard enough to have him consider
a Vitamin E from soy - but taking out
the estrogens is the only plus. And,
I've already checked with your sales
staff about the other Vit E products
and they are all derived from soy and
in a base of Vegetable oil which is also
Soybean oil. If I may, however,
suggest using olive oil or some other
non-soy oil as a filler in your unesterified
Vitamin E product because estrogen is
estrogen (isoflavones and lignans) and
your unesterified E may be unesterified
but the Vitamin E pill is no longer unesterified
because they add soybean oil to it. Some
of your customers may even feel like
they are being misled if they are buying
the product because the estrogen has
been removed and then find out it's being
put back in at any level.... just a thought.
Thanks
again so much for your help.
Be
well.
12 Jan
07
Answer:
Michele
Below is a response from the quality
dept. Let me know how you want
to proceed:
Hello ---,
All natural Vitamin E is Soy derived
and in our case highly purified. Phytoestrogens
such as the Isoflavones, though not tested
for, would be expected to have negligible
if not zero presence. Our (******) and
(*********) products use highly concentrated
sources with rice bran oil rather
than soy used as an excipient. Some such
as the dry form may have less residual
soybean as well. They may prefer these.
12 Jan 07
Michele:
Hi ---:
It's
great that you have E products with a
rice bran oil excipient. And the
comment about the Vitamin E being highly
purified and therefore virtually zero
Isoflavones is interesting. The "claim" from
all producers of unesterified Vitamin
E products is the same. However,
my issue is in the adding of the Soybean
oil. So, the Vitamin E is virtually estrogen
free but soy is a known estrogenic product
chocked full of Isoflavones - so when
the soy oil is added back (at any level)
it is no longer an estrogen free or negligible
product. Unfortunately, I disagree
with your Quality, Science & Nutrition
Group on this point when looking at the
product as a whole.
As for
the other products they mentioned, after
checking your website the Vitamin E source
is Soy and they are not unesterified
products. It would have been interesting
to have added the soybean oil to the
esterified Vitamin E products and added
the rice bran oil to the unesterified
product thereby making a truly superior
unesterified Vitamin E.
Again,
I appreciate your search to find a product
to fill our needs. However, for
as much as we may like the (*****) quality
we will continue to look for a truly
unesterified Vitamin E product.
Thank
you, Be well,
I bet
the folks at this company hadn't given
a thought to the fact that the Vit. E
they were touting as having had all of
the estrogen taken out of it for the
sake of consumer demand, was in fact
estrogenated! The snippiness in the tone
had from their research dept. in the
latter E-mails I think shows that they
were caught unawares! How can a company
of this size and fame be so out of the
loop on estrogen and its facts that they
go to the trouble to find a de-isoflavoned
Vit. E only to be stupid enough to put
back in what they took out!!!
If you’re
an Eco Yuppie and cling to the myth of
world overpopulation, then by all means
keep your genes to yourself and partake
greatly of the esterified Vit. E., and
indeed of all soy and flax based products.
But, if you are aware of the falling
population numbers, the great decrease
in fertility of both men and women worldwide
and this worries you; if you want to
have kids or if you just want to be able
to have good libido and make love, stay
away from anything with soy, isoflavones,
lignans and scream like hell for folks
to make a completely de-estrified Vit.
E product.
To
somebody out there - Let’s make
Vit. E from wheat germ oil once again
and completely leave the soy, flax,
sesame isoflavones and lignans out!
Let’s make E fertile ground again! Until
then I think I’ll stick to the
wheat germ oil by the tablespoon (yuck)!.
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